Today's blog is brought to you by an editor from 4th Estate. One of the more literary imprints in the HarperCollins stable, 4th Estate is responsible for publishing many highly-acclaimed novels and authors. Take it away Mark...
Fourth Estate is a broad church; it rose to prominence in the 90s publishing non-fiction (Longitude, The Diving-Bell and the Butterfly, Fermat’s Last Theorem), but its eclectic list now includes novelists (Doris Lessing, J.G. Ballard, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, Jonathan Franzen, Joseph O’Neill), cookery writers (Nigel Slater, Giorgio Locatelli, Richard Corrigan), entertainers (Eric Sykes, Denis Norden), comedians (Mitchell & Webb, Spike Milligan), polemicists (Nick Cohen, Francis Wheen, Ben Goldacre), and a chimpanzee (Cheeta). It’s a list I’m proud to work on, and one that combines a truly excellent stable of writers, with great scope to try out new ideas.
Literary fiction and non-fiction of the kind that Fourth Estate publishes is notoriously difficult to predict. This is, I think, unfortunate for publishers (in financial terms at least) but fortunate for the health of literature as a whole, and it throws down the gauntlet at editors to be proactive in finding the next book that will capture the reading public’s imagination, rather than merely reacting to already-established trends.
The most overriding thing I look for, though, is that all-important but impossible-to-define ‘voice’. You’ll no doubt have heard that a hundred times, and will hear it another thousand, but I can’t overestimate how important it is; there is no point in worrying about character or dialogue or pace or plot if you don’t have a voice to begin with. The thing about voice, from a reader’s perspective, is that it’s unmistakeably there; there is a subtly different shift in the way you read a paragraph that makes you sit up and pay attention, and want to hear what they’ve got to say.
Unfortunately, I’m afraid I can’t offer any advice on how to get one. What I would say, though, is read, read and read some more. There really are no good writers who aren’t, first, extremely good readers.
And one other thing - editors really do want to find writers they want to publish. We’re in publishing because we love books, and because we want to publish writers we love. Getting published can be, I know, a very slow and painful and opaque process (if it happens at all), but we set up this site so we could find those writers, and I very much hope we do.
26 comments:
Very interesting reading, Mark. Thank you for this.
Mark, you don't know how excited this makes me. My fingers are slipping on the keys as I write this (I'm now wiping them... wait...I've just wiped them on my trousers' leg because they're starting to get all clammy).
I think that this book here
http://authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=486
is where you'll find that voice. It's non-fiction, and not that mainstream, but includes some very original, picturesque writing - like black and white pictures on a page.
Okay, it's my book, but it is exactly what you've described. Please take a look.
Warm regards,
Anne
PS. If you click on my name above, it will take you to my 2 blogs, where you'll find various other links to some non-fiction, commercial writing I've done.
Pitchin’ me pitch…(Read me, baby… Read me, damn it!)
After reading Jason Pettus’s piece on pitches, I’ve gotten a surge of hope, which, in addition to rhyming with dope, has similar effects on body and mind. Also, I believe that my work approaches ‘literary’ at times. And the novel that I’m currently writing ‘aspires to literary.’
Anyway, I’ve tamped down my hard-earned pessimism regarding writing and Big Publishing and tackled the Haiku-like challenge of coming up with enticing and informative 25-words or less blurbs or pitches for my novel, White Seed. (I will run one of these up the flag pole today and see how many salutes it gets.) I was wondering if any of you would like to help me rank these in order of effectiveness (i.e., E,B,A,C,D, etc.)
Thank you in advance for your help!
A. Forbidden inter-racial love, cannibalism, and botched rescues plague the abandoned English colony of Roanoke -- finely-crafted historical fiction in the tradition of James Michener.
B. Abandoned English colonists de-evolve at Roanoke as Governor and part-time painter, John White petitions court for a rescue. By the author of Calling Crow.…
C. Clavell-like epic about desperate English colonists abandoned at Roanoke and their distracted, painter-Governor, John White’s attempts to rally an indifferent court to the rescue…
D. By the author of Calling Crow. Abandoned English colonists de-evolve at Roanoke as Governor and part-time water-colorist, John White petitions court for a rescue …
E. While Roanoke colonists starve, English soldiers de-evolve into cannibalistic primitives, and Powhattan plots, Maggie Hagger ponders the unforgivable -- giving herself to Manteo the savage. (this last was my original)
If you'd really like to hear a strong voice from a first-rate writer look up Grace Andreacchi.
Did I hear someone mention voice?
How about the gift of divination?
Ahh, now you're listening:
What about a writer with a direct link to the collective SUB-consciousness of a whole 21st century, lost, global civilization of vagabonds, made up of un-elitist (could go either way), autodidacts who live to learn, to understand, to taste the aesthetic, gem-like juices of art and transcendent intellectual thought?
That's something, too, I think.
This writer is the real deal with a stake in civilization, but owns nothing, has progeny (legitimate or not) on every side of the multi-perspectival aisle. This writer was born in Eden, but lived to fall, has been up and down circumnavigating the earth and his own self-worth. This writer HAD faith, lost it, grew a brain--killed it; debated with his own soul until it shriveled up and died to be reborn in an aesthete's body, forever lying languid in the still waters of intellection. He lives, yet dies daily, for that is his only spiritual comfort.
This writer frequents LOBOTOMY--I mean AUTHONOMY, because it spurs the prickly fire under his butt to create...
And this is all brought to you by J.T. Bleu: ARTIST AT WORK, and author of THE MIMESIS PARADIGM
Mark, a huge thank-you is due to you for sharing your thoughts with us. Thank-you!!!
Now I know why I skim paragraphs of works that otherwise hold my attention purely for plot or characterization... A quick fix, in other words, on books that have to be categorized as 'pulp fiction', and not worth keeping on my shelves, not worth recommending or discussing.
I hope you'll find some new voices here. I can recommend a few you might find worthy...
"Independence" by Kate Kasserman;
"The Silence of Trees" by Valya Lupescu;
"A Light in the Cane Fields" by Enrico Antiporda
All different, deeply felt and honestly written in the raw.
As for me, I've had some praise... So if you'd care to see, my work's called "Annacara", and my name is Kay-Christine Fenton.
Thank-you once more, and power to you.
Kay
P.S. - for Paul! I must check out your "White Seed"... It sounds fascinating - and one of my ancestors was lost in that Roanoke Colony! My vote for your tag is "E"... but, can I offer you this on it, please? Okay then -
"As soldiers in the New World's Roanoke Colony turn primitive, starving colonist Maggie Hagger ponders the unforgivable sin of giving herself to Mateo the savage".
There you are... Next?
JG Ballard and Spike Milligan?
Hmmm
Space.
Sorry, but I can't cite Cheeta as an influence...
Hi Mark,
'Ibarajo Road' (complete at 74,000 words) is a challenging but sympathetic look at the clash of modernity and tradition in West Africa, as seen from the unique perspective of an expatriate teenager. Set in the early eighties with the onset of Aids and the famine in Ethiopia, and told through a plot of child smuggling and political corruption, it highlights people’s inability to learn from the past and the importance of individual and cultural identity.
You can read the opening chapters by following the link below.
http://www.authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=1467
I really hope you have time to have a look.
Best regards
Harry
http://www.authonomy.com/ReadBook.aspx?bookid=1828#chapter
Hello,
My novel is literary fiction and I believe suits the criteria you have been discussing.
Thanks,
JamesG
I've read a bit of Ibajaro road and had it on my bookshelf for a long time. I can recommend it.
http://www.authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=1467
Warm Regards,
Anne
I don't imagine for a minute that the purpose of your blog was to find books that already have this voice, but these do:
http://authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=1200
http://authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=1199
Thanks, Anne.
Kay-Christine Fenton,
thanks for your suggestion. I'll try it. And send me an email and tell me more about your 'lost Roanoke relative.'
best,
Paul Clayton
For the British answer to My Sister, My Love: The Intimate Story of Skyler Rampike, read:
The Sacrificial Man
by Debut Dagger winner Ruth Dugdall.
Harsh yet moving. Unsentimental and original.
A voice worth hearing.
"with great scope to try out new ideas....."
If this is true, then try Icarus Rising.
Dominic Carney
Interesting thoughts there. The importance of a distinct voice particularly.
Particularly interesting to me because my book (Fardel's Bear) is in part about getting such a voice, via the assimilation (and piss-taking) of various influences (Proust, Orton, Joyce, Woolf, Huxley ...), but whether it's an appealing or thought-provoking result, I'm less certain! It makes some folk laugh though, which is all that matters. Or is it?
Come to think of it, that's one of the main things I find lacking in more commercial and genre fiction and most of the attempts at it on here in particular, even in the few cases where the writing is competent or better. Some prefer the author's voice not to intrude on a good yarn but maybe that's why I prefer that grey area so alienatingly titled literary.
Morning,
thanks for your blog, any explanations of the publishing world are always welcome.
Well, you guessed it, I have a book on here as well, 'Searching for Ahimsa' is my first. I think there is a voice but I have no idea if I am right. I would be grateful if you could advise.
It is literary fiction, set against the political turmoil of Norhtern Ireland after the 1998 ceasefire when nobody knew what to do next.
http://www.authonomy.com/Viewbook.aspx?bookid=2312
Best of luck with your search.
Enjoy
Stephen
Not sure it was a good idea for you lot to turn the Comments Section of the Authonomy blog into Shameless Plugs.
Seriously, can any of you imagine poor Mark actually working his way dutifully through the recommendations here?
Darned if I would...
The one thing I would put a brake on here on authonomy is the triviality of the majority of the forum postings and threads. It has turned into a field day for gasbags. These people could bring delight and some economy to the balloon races that lift off at Chateau D'Oex in Switzerland every January. The new postings come up and flicker past faster than the ticker tape on Wall Street, leaving anything of substance among them to wallow, sink, and die in the stryofoam packing pellets. Why not put a limit on the number of postings shameless members can inflict on the rest of us? Enforce some professionalism. And I sign as 'anonymous' only to save this postings from being interpreted as a plug.
Mark - thank you for the insight. I hope you can ignore the shameless way in which some authonomists pitch themselves at each and any perceived opportunity, and write again when you can.
Interesting - many of the most shameless self-promoters, despite their success at manipulating their way to the top of the pile are actually pretty grim writers!
Agree totally with French Bob and my other half, Anonymous. It's time to regulate these blatant sales-pitch merchants. And they're not even any good at that. You don't tell an editor that you have the right 'voice' they're looking for, you let them decide for themselves! How terribly amateurish. And I imagine most editors won't even do you this service as you've already blasted both barrels firmly into both feet.
It's the quickest way to turn most editors right off you, by telling them how great your story is too.
It's time to put a stop to this 'crass rubbish' (a term that can be loosely applied to the work most of these shameless wannabes churn out).
I read the first comment in this blog and wanted to vomit.
A contributor said several weeks ago that the standard of the top five was likely to get worse and worse. He's obviously right. A couple of the current top five are truly appalling - although they will no doubt receive pro forma encouraging reviews from HC editors in due course.
It's actually quite difficult now to see what purpose this site serves. I noticed that an HC editor in one of the latest reviews said that the writer needed to be very clear about who his audience was. The same could be said about this site. How many people are writing anything that HC would be remotely interested in publishing? So, clearly, HC are not seriously using it as a vehicle for discovering new material. If they were, they would offer detailed guidance about what they were looking for, and what they have no interest in. They would be trying to shape the site to bring suitable material to the fore. As it stands, this site is the fiefdom of a group of extremely shouty people who sing their own praises all day long (and somehow manage to get into the top 5 with this obnoxious tactic - proving that most writers on here have no taste).
Of course, the real purpose of this site is nothing to do with finding new talent. It is all about branding, marketing and experimenting with HC's online presence. I doubt the site will survive. The return on investment does not justify its existence, to use HC accountancy speak.
Pitching should not be a game where one can learn the rules & win - should it if Fourth Estate is looking for new voices?
I agree with earlier contributor the bloggers here seem "shouty" punters screaming "read me!" like o many spoiled children.that does not bode well for what they are writing - does it? Self indulgence navel gazing probably & hardly "the Great Gatsby"...
Please don't read me.
I'm available to be read but that is only because I have discovered that by throwing down a public gauntlet proclaiming that I will finish my book and giving myself an online deadline of just under a fortnight to finish the first draft, I now have the potential humiliation as a spur to make it happen. Probably.
I am hopeful that the end result will be worth the psychological self manipulation.
If it is then I for one am glad the authonomy blog exists. Because I am a lazy so and so who needs some sort of kickstart to get going.
My teenage son is enjoying what I write and my husband has refused to read it until it is finished having been caught up too often in novels I never finish.
So for purely selfish reasons I am a big fan of this site.
Just a thought. If I'm a wind bag as someone here said in so many words and a fan as well, then I can probably stay happy for hours on end in a kind of gusty perpetual motion situation.
www.uttuku.blog.com
mentions authonomy, so does http://www.whohub.com/uttuku
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