In the last few weeks we've had a good smattering of guest blogs from all around the company, covering a variety of genres and lists. Today we introduce the next in this series, from an editor who works on HC's prestigious Children's list. Based in our New York office, Erica sits on the authonomy editorial board and has a lot of experience in the field of children's publishing.
Working in children’s publishing can be a funny thing sometimes. People outside of the industry often assume that “children’s books” automatically means “picture books.” While many of my co-workers specialize in picture books, I work mostly on novels – middle grade and teen fiction. When I mention that to friends or acquaintances, however, I am often met with the belief that children’s books can never be as intense, literary, or important as adult books.
Au contraire! I am often amazed by the incredible literature that I am presented with as an editor of children’s books. The best middle grade and teen novels are insightful and delightful –true works of art. As a leading children’s publisher, HarperCollins looks to publish books that stand out from the pack: novels with a knockout new way of looking at the world, a fresh, believable hook, and, above all, a standout voice. (Yes, that all-important voice, which other editors have blogged about on Authonomy, is ever so important in the children’s world, too). We look for manuscripts that will pull a young reader in to their pages and never let go— books that will stay with them long after the last page is turned.
While most submissions have many good qualities to recommend them, there are a few red flags that I look for when reviewing potential projects. One of my pet peeves is reading a novel that sounds like it’s been written by an adult talking to a child. I also get frustrated when writers use dialogue that sounds very much of the adult author’s time – there’s no need for a steady stream of slang from your characters, but they should definitely sound like kids and not like adults.
One activity that is always helpful if you’re trying to break into the children’s market is going to the bookstores and checking out the books that are successful. (I’d recommend starting with the bestsellers and recent award winners.) What works about them? Why do you think they’ve found their niche? Try to look at your work with the same kind of analytical eye – what kind of readers will devour your story? What will they love about it? What might give them pause? Once you can see where your book would fit on the shelves, you’re well on your way!
Good luck!
Wednesday, 19 November 2008
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Yes - the dialogue can be tricky sometimes. I've found occasional phrases and references slipping in that are too old-fashioned for a twelve-year old.
It helps to work with children, I find (with the writing that is - not the nerves :-))
One of my pet peeves is kids' books talking down to their readership. I've been told now by many people that my book Kip Doodle And The Armchair of Lost Dreams (http://authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=3302) captures the voice really well - to the extent that one author commented that the hero Tyler was just like her own ten-year old son.
For me, with this book, it was about offering all those qualities you cite - in effect writing the kind of book that I would love to have read when I was that age (8+), and also offering a light, entertaining adventure that nonetheless had emotional substance at its heart, to ensure a memorable story (full of exciting possibilities for future stories as well) rather than what I encounter too often, which is a sort of disposable read-and-forget philosophy.
My motto, if I have one at all, is to involve, inspire and illuminate with my stories and the best kinds of kids' stories, I think, inspire kids to play with their imaginations and create stories of their own. And I'm happy to say that, based just on the sample I have posted on authonomy, there are already - I'm told - kids and parents out there wondering where they can get a hold of my book!
Don't inspire or illuminate, me @ to me that very aim is a form of talking down. Just want to amuse, anything else is a bonus. As a kid I hated books with morals and good intents and still do.
Actually my Poonlop takes the piss out of the 'talking down' style and that really seems to float the ten year old boat.
A slight snag for me: "but they should definitely sound like kids and not like adults" My characters aren't kids. But they are more childish than kids maybe!
"Don't inspire or illuminate, me @ to me that very aim is a form of talking down. Just want to amuse, anything else is a bonus. As a kid I hated books with morals and good intents and still do."
You're misreading me. Go and read me instead ;-)
I first started writing when I was a teenager because there wasn't anything between Nancy Drew/Willard Price and Robert Heinlein. My first attempts were things I'd like to have read myself.
Childrens writing, in particular 6 to 9 year olds, should have a world in front of them so beautiful and simple that they will be left smiling all day!I do not think children need to have adult content etc thrown at them at such a young age. Books by Blyton,Lewis etc offered such exciting yet simple books. I would wish for my youngest daughter to be amazed and excited by everything she read until she is older. There is no need to over complicate or to be fashionable for this age.Classic, simple styles seem to work every time..
I hope I have captured this in Hobgoblet, a magical quest for 7 to 9 year old.
I think children's books should be magical, exciting and above all pull the child into a world that is so beautiful they smile all day. Forget whats trendy,don't over complicate and get inside their little world.I get fed up with books that try and talk to 8 year olds as though they are adults. Is this really what we want? I wrote Hobgoblet with the aim of recapturing an era of books that is still hugely popular.
I have had a go at writing a children's book, but I have to say that I have miserably failed to follow your rules. I'm not entirely convinced that all children want to read endlessly about other children saying things are "wicked" and "cool" (both probably now out of date anyway). But I accept that you are in a better position than I am to know what they like.
Anyway, it's very interesting to read what you say.
Charles
Here's what's key: writing books for TODAY'S kids, not for yourself when you were a kid. You've got to immerse yourself in the way today's kids speak and think, and you need to know the stuff that is second nature to them -- social networking, video games, the music they like and so on.
Volunteer at a school or Girl Scout/Boy Scout/Cub Scout group. Hang out with your nieces and nephews if you don't have kids. Watch Nick and Disney and other kids channels. Read kids magazines.
If you can't come across as authentic, you'll set off kids' BS detectors. And they have GREAT BS detectors! :)
Jon
Children's Book Insider, Write4Kids.com
If the following is, in all honesty, what you're looking for,
As a leading children’s publisher, HarperCollins looks to publish books that stand out from the pack: novels with a knockout new way of looking at the world, a fresh, believable hook, and, above all, a standout voice. (Yes, that all-important voice, which other editors have blogged about on Authonomy, is ever so important in the children’s world, too). We look for manuscripts that will pull a young reader in to their pages and never let go— books that will stay with them long after the last page is turned.
You could easily find it here on Authonomy with a few clicks.
"If the following is, in all honesty, what you're looking for,
As a leading children’s publisher, HarperCollins looks to publish books that stand out from the pack: novels with a knockout new way of looking at the world, a fresh, believable hook, and, above all, a standout voice. (Yes, that all-important voice, which other editors have blogged about on Authonomy, is ever so important in the children’s world, too). We look for manuscripts that will pull a young reader in to their pages and never let go— books that will stay with them long after the last page is turned.
You could easily find it here on Authonomy with a few clicks."
Well said, Annie. Home page: click on #4 in the current weekly chart. Click read book. I make that two clicks. :-)
http://www.authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=3302
John said: "Here's what's key: writing books for TODAY'S kids, not for yourself when you were a kid."
Valid points. Of course an important distinction to be made is that I said "in effect writing the kind of book that I would love to have read when I was that age (8+)". In other words, "at that age", not "in that age". :-)
As for contemporary kids' voice, I know I've had the advantage of having been a step-parent of two for a time, but it's also fair to say you can pick up a lot merely from listening to kids out in the streets or, for example, I see a lot of kids in the local cafe where I write. And yeah, sometimes they make enough noise to disrupt the writing, but you still learn a thing or two :-)
Thank you for this very insightful piece. I composed a short picture book in ... rhyme ....
I wrote it as I lived it many years ago - the idea of using today's jargon / voice / experience of the newest generation makes me wonder if I did it wrong. It was edited, but no comments on style.
Same with my other short stories about two little boys going on various adventures with their trusty dog, Oscar.
And, I probably shot myself in the foot, but I posted Nursery Rhyme Twists to stump my kids; they have to guess the original Nursery Rhyme before the end of the story... so far, I'm 3-out-of-4! If you have the time, please provide constructive criticism. I think I may have missed the current 'voice'. But, it was fun to do it anyway.
Thank you for your guidance.
Thanks for the comments. I agree completely. As a teacher, I find that kids enjoy reading about kids. They want characters they can relate to inside stories that take them on adventures. (Don't we all?)
It's not always easy to capture the voice of children but I've found that reading the text aloud during revisions helps.
My issue is that not all children's books have to be novels...
Let's give some fun back to the kids:
http://www.authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=1718
(my book!)
Crumbs, you even get people plugging their own books on here...
"Thanks for the comments. I agree completely. As a teacher, I find that kids enjoy reading about kids. They want characters they can relate to inside stories that take them on adventures.(Don't we all?)"
Laurie, I like your views. What age group do you teach, and is there any chance you could get your class to take a look at Kip Doodle? Feedback from kids on our stories is like gold dust.
I'm so glad to hear someone say children love to read fantasy (don't we all)and adventure. Something that makes them want to read the story again and again.I have just finished another children's book and tomorrow my next step is to read to a third and fourth grade class. The kids are the greatest critics in the world.
love this blog
Jo Shepherd Ripley
Thank you so much for offering clarification and insight regarding YA literature. It seems an area of confusion for many, but your post provides inspiration for writers trying to create literary shoes for young readers.
I grew up hating to read, even though my father authored over 70 books. Figure that one out. But then I recently read that James Patterson also has a reluctant reader son.
I've chosen to write for MG, especially boys, because it's such a pivotal age. Tweens, their parents and teachers have given me excellent feedback so far.
I've never had so much fun in all my life.
Max Elliot Anderson
http://booksandboys.blogspot.com
Got 2 for ya :)- www.areyoukirst.com (middle grade) and teen- http://www.authonomy.com/ViewBook.aspx?bookid=5201
Agree that new books should avoid anachronisms. But I suspect it's less important than we think. My clear memory as a child was that grown ups NEVER understood our world - an illustration of that universal truth that outsiders never really know what is going on.
Books and TV programmes showed how adults expected us children to behave and feel, and of course we learned that. Many of these books and programmes were great, full of adventure and mystery, but I always felt we were learning how to be adults when we read or watched them.
So I was always overjoyed when I came across something which showed that an adult did understand the reality of child life - however fusty and fuddy duddy that adult may seem to be.
Authors like this include J K Rowling, Lewis Carroll, Judy Blume, Enid Blyton, Jacqueline Wilson.
Of course, this quality is something that nobody can teach to writers.
But if I were an editor, the search for THIS would be what kept me going.
I'd simply trial the book with kids before publication, to make sure that the attitudes and language were reasonably up to date.
Jenny Woolf
www.jabberwock.co.uk
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